Comments on: A Quick Word On Burkhas http://celestiniosity.com/2008/05/16/a-quick-word-on-burkhas/ politics, philosophy, and mischief Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:43:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Martin.haywood@inter http://celestiniosity.com/2008/05/16/a-quick-word-on-burkhas/#comment-432 Martin.haywood@inter Wed, 21 May 2008 22:55:19 +0000 http://celestiniosity.com/2008/05/16/a-quick-word-on-burkhas/#comment-432 It seems the worst prudes were the <a href="http://www.quercus-sys.com/home/naturism/nudity6.htm" rel="nofollow">sons of Abraham</a>, but personally I think it has a lot to do with "locking up the women". It's interesting, don't you think, that the fact that the girl was beyond social boundaries (in the eyes of the security guard and I guess the police) made her fair game for over the top treatment - her arrest. There's an insular bullying attitude from those in authority, you see it everywhere these days. Is it my imagination or is that one of the consequences of 9/11? It seems the worst prudes were the sons of Abraham, but personally I think it has a lot to do with “locking up the women”. It’s interesting, don’t you think, that the fact that the girl was beyond social boundaries (in the eyes of the security guard and I guess the police) made her fair game for over the top treatment - her arrest. There’s an insular bullying attitude from those in authority, you see it everywhere these days. Is it my imagination or is that one of the consequences of 9/11?

]]> By: celestina http://celestiniosity.com/2008/05/16/a-quick-word-on-burkhas/#comment-431 celestina Wed, 21 May 2008 13:39:20 +0000 http://celestiniosity.com/2008/05/16/a-quick-word-on-burkhas/#comment-431 Yeah, although the article on the prom dress didn't really go into detail about why she was arrested, the fact that she offered to cover up and then asked for her money back tells me that she did not immediately fly into a blithering rage when refused entrance. So in the end it comes down to exactly what you said, Martin. Too much skin, too much attitude. And even disregarding why demanding her money back got her in trouble, I am still struggling with why we still make such a big deal about skin in the first place. How did we evolve from naked advanced monkeys where clothing was optional (as in, say, among the Greeks) to a culture where women have to be damned sure to not only cover up those "naughty bits" but also be careful how they reveal the rest? It's too easy to just say Christianity did it...as Christianity certainly was a huge influence in setting up our current culture, but it largely encapsulated and reflected a growing body of beliefs in the time of its inception (read: at whatever period each book of the Bible was written). At any rate, the US still has a long way to go when it comes to moving past all its -isms. Yeah, although the article on the prom dress didn’t really go into detail about why she was arrested, the fact that she offered to cover up and then asked for her money back tells me that she did not immediately fly into a blithering rage when refused entrance. So in the end it comes down to exactly what you said, Martin. Too much skin, too much attitude. And even disregarding why demanding her money back got her in trouble, I am still struggling with why we still make such a big deal about skin in the first place. How did we evolve from naked advanced monkeys where clothing was optional (as in, say, among the Greeks) to a culture where women have to be damned sure to not only cover up those “naughty bits” but also be careful how they reveal the rest? It’s too easy to just say Christianity did it…as Christianity certainly was a huge influence in setting up our current culture, but it largely encapsulated and reflected a growing body of beliefs in the time of its inception (read: at whatever period each book of the Bible was written).

At any rate, the US still has a long way to go when it comes to moving past all its -isms.

]]> By: Martin.haywood@inter http://celestiniosity.com/2008/05/16/a-quick-word-on-burkhas/#comment-430 Martin.haywood@inter Wed, 21 May 2008 10:48:43 +0000 http://celestiniosity.com/2008/05/16/a-quick-word-on-burkhas/#comment-430 I am replying here because other forums (you know who you are, NV) are so jam packed with apologists for the effing police response that I am likely to do physical harm to myself in my frustrated desire to introduce the offenders to enhanced interrogation techniques. She was, let's face it, arrested for being (a) dressed in perfectly legal if provocative clothing and (b) being uppity. Who says the US has moved on from being a deeply prudish deeply sexist country? Not that I'm complaining other western countries are a hell of a lot better. So you're right, there's a lot in common with Afghanistan. What's scary is that apparently normal people are playing the role of the Taliban and joining the stoning party. So, shut up and cover up, ok? I am replying here because other forums (you know who you are, NV) are so jam packed with apologists for the effing police response that I am likely to do physical harm to myself in my frustrated desire to introduce the offenders to enhanced interrogation techniques.

She was, let’s face it, arrested for being (a) dressed in perfectly legal if provocative clothing and (b) being uppity. Who says the US has moved on from being a deeply prudish deeply sexist country? Not that I’m complaining other western countries are a hell of a lot better. So you’re right, there’s a lot in common with Afghanistan. What’s scary is that apparently normal people are playing the role of the Taliban and joining the stoning party.

So, shut up and cover up, ok?

]]> By: celestina http://celestiniosity.com/2008/05/16/a-quick-word-on-burkhas/#comment-428 celestina Sat, 17 May 2008 20:30:39 +0000 http://celestiniosity.com/2008/05/16/a-quick-word-on-burkhas/#comment-428 I'm so going to take you up on that...;) I’m so going to take you up on that…;)

]]> By: Orwell http://celestiniosity.com/2008/05/16/a-quick-word-on-burkhas/#comment-427 Orwell Sat, 17 May 2008 19:41:10 +0000 http://celestiniosity.com/2008/05/16/a-quick-word-on-burkhas/#comment-427 Find me a burkha. grab your camera. let's make history. Find me a burkha. grab your camera. let’s make history.

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